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Trying to decide whether to attend a community college or a university right out of high school is a question worthy of pondering. I’ve attended both (university, then CC, then university) and each has its pros and cons.
Class Size
Community Colleges tend toward fewer students per class, which means more student/teacher interaction. This is good for students who like access to their instructors so they can ask questions and avoid getting lost (in the course material or in the shuffle).
Universities usually have massive auditoriums full of a few hundred students, all of whom are trying to keep their heads above water and have hordes of fellow student to compete with for the prof’s office hours. Higher level courses have smaller class sizes (the riff-raff have been weeded out and those left have proven their mettle).
Campus Housing
Community Colleges rarely have on-campus housing to offer.
Universities generally have one or more version of campus housing in order to accommodate students, grad students, faculty, married students, etc.
Expense
Community College will put less of a dent in your college fund.
University tuition costs vary depending upon whether they are public or private, but are more expensive than community colleges.
Caliber of Instruction
At any school there are the amazing instructors and the dismal ones. It’s just the way it goes. I have experienced both kinds at two-year and at four-year schools.
A lot of great instructors teach at community colleges because they actually want to teach and not do the whole publish-or-perish game. I’ve had community college instructors who were there because they wanted to teach at a college-level and they were effing good at it. They could break down some utterly confusing and complicated calculus or chemistry or physics moment into its most simplified, basic form and with one eloquent statement sweep it up, explain it, and have it all fall into place, fully comprehended, in my head.
I’ve had university profs who were so busy with their research (which is, unfortunately, the only way to achieve and maintain professor status) that they were more like silent partners in the course and their TA’s did the actual teaching and question-fielding. But I’ve also had ass-kicking professors who clearly went into their chosen field because it is the thing that makes their world complete and they are happiest standing in classroom explaining their idea of perfection to college students.
Architecture
Community Colleges are rarely architecturally stunning as they tend to lack both real estate and funding.
University architecture is what we all think of when we picture a college campus: the buildings vary depending upon the decade in which they were built, but overall a university campus is usually far superior to its community college counterpart.
Transition Issues
The transition from high school to a community college is easier, but you miss out on all the dorm parts.
Jumping from high school to college isn’t as smooth as it could be, but moving away from home when you’re a barely legal adult and living sans parental supervision in a puke-infested dorm is the American version of painfully unmentionable tribal rites of passage. It’s a grow-up-quick, sink-or-swim, survival-of-the-fittest situation and it is what memories are made of.
Degrees Obtainable
Community colleges offer Associate of Arts degrees, nothing higher. However, they are extremely useful as a means to a transfer end: most general ed. coursework that a university requires of its freshmen and sophomores can be taken at a community college.
At a university you can be educated to within an inch of your life: they offer Bachelor’s degrees, Master’s degrees and Doctorates. Go crazy.
College Life
Little or none at a community college.
Lots at a university. Sports, clubs, bonding with fellow collegians, you name it.
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[…] Trying to decide whether to attend a community college or a university right out of high school is a question worthy of pondering. Ive attended both (university, then CC, then university) and each has its pros and cons.Class SizeCommunity Colleges tend toward fewer students per class, which means more student/teacher interaction. This is […]Read More… [Source: Educated Nation | Higher Education Blog] […]
Pingback by » Community College vs. University 05.19.08 @ 1:18 amI think it is very important to discuss the pros and cons of community colleges vs. Universities. However, I don’t know if they are accurately represented in this blog post. I think each community college is different, and some are better than other. I attended a community college for 2 years before transferring to a university, where I currently attend. So, as you can see, I am experienced in both areas. I had an awesome experience at a community college, and would like to clear up some of the information.
Campus Housing
At every community college I have visited, there has been very affordable student housing (dorms). And at the school I went to, 95% of the housing (dorms or off-campus) were within 500 feet of the perimeter of campus.
Architecture
Many community colleges have as beautiful of campuses and unique history as universities do. If you don’t believe me, do some research and look at the pictures online.
Transition Issues
I think that going to a community college first (and still moving out of your parents house) is the best idea in the world! At a community college, the class sizes are smaller and more similar to a high school-sized class, the campus is made up of only Freshman and Sophomores that you can relate to a little easier, and community college’s are soooo much cheaper! And for kids that didn’t have the best GPA in high school or didn’t get drafted to play college sports out of high school, they can start at a community college and then move up from there. All around, I think starting with a community college is the BEST plan.
College Life
I guess this all depends on what community college you go to. But, in my experience, there was a huge campus life! There were the usual sports(football, mens and womens basketball, volleyball, tennis, etc.), clubs, and the school hosted all kinds of dances, parties and other fun events.
And the greatest part about the college life was that you get to know practically everyone on campus, so you always know about what’s going on and there’s always something fun to do.
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Comment by Courtney Barnes Group 05.30.08 @ 10:59 amthank you for your list. i found it rather helpful. i graduated from high school just about 2 years ago, and worked until i knew what i wanted to do. bc i wasnt sure as to whether i was ready for college, i took community college. i very much liked my govt & math teacher. i can’t say much for my english or communications teacher.
Comment by sarah 07.02.08 @ 1:29 amThanks for sharing this thoughtful list. Community college can be a great fit for many students, so I hope your list will help make some more open to the possibility.
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@everyone–I’m glad you’ve all enjoyed the list and have found it helpful!
Comment by alexa 07.14.08 @ 3:47 pmwhat if you take ap classes and pass them in highschool? does it make a difference if you go to college or university?
Comment by angie 01.20.09 @ 6:33 pmAngie,
If you take AP classes in high school and pass them, then you’re probably a great student. In your comment you asked whether it mattered if you went to college or university. Did you mean a two-year college vs. a four-year college or university? Honestly, in the long run it doesn’t matter (career-wise) if you attend a two-year community college directly after high school, and then transfer to a four-year college or a four-year university in order to complete your degree, or if you go straight to a four-year institution after high school. Anyone looking to hire you will only care that you have a college degree, they won’t much care the route you took to acquire the degree.
All of which means that it’s up to you whether you spend two less-expensive (and oftentimes less-overwhelming) years at a community college prior to transferring to a four-year college/university, or whether you go right from high school to a four-year school.
I wasn’t entirely clear on what your question was, so please let me know if I haven’t answered it. Take care,
Alexa
Comment by alexa 01.21.09 @ 1:26 pmWhat are the pro and cons of these New Colleges(Uei,everest,Plus thousands of others etc) popping up everwhere and TV offering degrees from Bachelor to Masters. Are they Creditable?
They use to be called technical schools, now they are called colleges. Are they really college? How did they become college. The reason I ask is my nices is going to one of these schools and she believes she will be getting a top education that is goint caltpult her into the “Criminal justice” career.
Can you transfer these credits to a major university?
I attented a technical school in late
60s and early 70s (informatin service, computer programing(RPG, COBOL, Fortran,IBM RPG ,Information Processing Language(IPL),JCL)
I hope somebody can answer this question.
Comment by Marques J 01.23.09 @ 4:59 pmi currently attend keiser university its a great school all the teacher are wonderful i have no complaint but my major is paramedic/fire fighter and keiser doesnt offer that program so i found out that City College does have that program at there school but i told a couple of my friend that was going to transfer and they stated that i shouldnt go tot hat school because its not an accreditted school so i just wanted to find out some more information before i totally committ to that school
Comment by Davin Ross 01.26.09 @ 6:54 pm@Marques J. and Davin Ross–
In answer to your questions, only accredited schools award actual degrees. In order to find out the accreditation status of a particular school, you can go to the U.S. Dept. of Education’s accreditation Web site and search for the school in question. If the school isn’t listed, then it isn’t accredited, and the degree won’t mean much. Here’s the address:
http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/
As far as the transferability of credits, it depends on the school you’re transferring from (it has to be an accredited institution), and the school you’re hoping to transfer into (they have the last say on which credits they’ll accept and how many they will accept). I have had to re-take chemistry and math courses, for example, because the UC system didn’t want to accept the credits I earned at a Cal State school. One would think that chemistry and math are fairly universal, and would therefore be transferable, but there you go. I was in no position to argue, so re-take the courses I did.
To find out which credits will transfer, you’ll have to speak with an admissions officer at the school you’re hoping to transfer into.
I understand that the deluge of “colleges” showing up on TV and promising career education can be overwhelming. A lot of the schools are the education version of ambulance-chasing lawyers. Fortunately, it’s easy to check the accreditation status, which is the first thing you should always research about any potential school (for you or your niece). Take care,
Alexa
Comment by alexa 01.27.09 @ 3:57 pmStarting at a community college has no effect on the diploma received at the end of four years. The diploma will read, “The University of ??.” There is no statement on the diploma that indicates whether the student spent two or four years at the university. They all look the same.
Comment by Wendy 05.19.09 @ 8:34 amI’m a freshman at a university right now but I really want to transfer to a better one. However, most universities give transfer preference to community college students. Would it be a good idea to spend my sophomore year at a community college instead of my current university so I could transfer to where I really want to go?
Comment by Cheryl 05.27.09 @ 7:41 pm@Cheryl,
That’s such a catch-22 situation. Some four-year schools do give transfer preference to students coming in from community colleges. When I was an undergrad, I tried to transfer from a Cal State school to a UC school, and trying to switch from one California university system to another was fraught with ridiculous amount of red tape. I was told (by the UC school) to leave the Cal State school and spend a year at a community college working on my sophomore year general ed stuff, while working with the UC transfer advisor at the community college. I jumped through all of their hoops and did get in to the UC school. But it felt bizarre to have gotten into a good university right out of high school, and then to take half a step backwards and attend a community college (which I could have done in the first place right out of high school and saved myself and my parents a lot of time, energy and money). It all worked out in the end, and sometimes you just have no idea where you’re going to want to end up until you’re further on down the road.
My advice would be to ask any and all of the schools you’re planning on trying to transfer to what they would advise you to do. They’ll hopefully be up front about their transfer policies, and will let you know which route will give you the best chances of being accepted as a transfer student (through a two-year institution or through a four-year institution). And, as a red-tape veteran, I would strongly urge you to always get the same question answered by two different people, and have them sign something (even a little note stating what they’ve told you). I spent an entire semester taking courses that one woamn told me I absolutely HAD to take, only to be told later (by another advosor at the same school) that I’d wasted my time and money and I should have been taking an entirely different collection of classes. That was a really great day. Only by quelling my rage did I stop myself from knocking their cubicles over.
From then on I got things in writing by saying, “Could you please write a list of what I need to do and sign it please, in case anyone questions me later on down the line?” Having my little scraps of priceless, signed notes from people with nameplates turned out to be one of the better life skills I learned in college. Good luck!
Alexa
Comment by alexa 05.28.09 @ 11:23 amLeave a comment




















I think there’s one other aspect that should be looked at. The “name brand” of schools can actually translate into a lot of value in the real world. Community colleges tend to not wow anyone. That said, I think that a really good story about how and why you ended up at a community college can mitigate those negative connotations about comm colleges.
Keep up the great work!
Comment by James Connors 05.17.08 @ 3:07 pm-James